ES: No, I mean what’s the secret to being cool when somebody fires a gun at you?
IT: Not knowing the bullet went through your hat. [Laughs.]
ES: Your knowledge of Iceberg Slim apparently led to your becoming an apprentice for a pimp in Hawaii. Is that true?
IT: I was in Hawaii and the sister of my buddy’s girlfriend was a prostitute. She had a pimp out there that we hung out with. He had parties and stuff. He’s the first one who told me I could make it in the game.
ES: The pimping game?
IT: Yeah. He told me, “You don’t seem fascinated with these women. Some guys are really giddy around chicks, but you just mind your business.” I wasn’t trippin’. So later in life I came back and hung out with him for a while and we’d drive chicks around and do all kinds of stuff.
ES: The pimping trade seems like a Jedi Knight thing.
IT: A what?
ES: Jedis. You know, like from Star Wars.
IT: Oh, oh yeah. I mean… I guess, sure.ES: You find your master, your Ben Kenobi, and then he teaches everything you need to know.
IT: They say trying to teach pimpin’ is like trying to teach astrophysics to a wino.